--- title: "Open Source in Finance Podcast: The Evolving Role of Open Source in Financial Services with GitLab's George Kichukov" description: Discover how open source is transforming financial services in our podcast with GitLab's George Kichukov, discussing secure practices, engineering culture, and industry collaboration. image: https://www.finos.org/hubfs/Open%20Source%20in%20Finance%20Podcast%20-%20George%20Kichukov.png --- [![FINOS](https://www.finos.org/hs-fs/hubfs/sofin%20assets/SOFIN%20LOGOS/finos-logo.png?width=543&height=126&name=finos-logo.png "FINOS")](https://finos.org) - [Projects](https://www.finos.org/projects) - [Artificial Intelligence (AI)](https://ai.finos.org/) - [Common Domain Model (CDM)](https://www.finos.org/common-domain-model) - [FDC3](https://www.finos.org/fdc3) - [Fluxnova](https://fluxnova.finos.org) - [FINOS Common Cloud Controls](https://www.finos.org/common-cloud-controls-project) - [High Performance Computing (HPC)](https://hpc.finos.org) - [OSERA](https://osera.finos.org/) - 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The conversation covers the adoption of secure open-source practices, the importance of a strong engineering culture, and the benefits of contributing back to the open-source community. George shares insights from his 20-year career, including his extensive experience at Citibank, and elaborates on his current role in improving software delivery at GitLab. The episode also highlights upcoming events like the Open Source and Finance Forum (OSFF) and the vital role of sponsors in fostering industry collaboration.       Find all of our podcasts at [**Anchor.fm**](https://anchor.fm/finos), [**Apple Podcasts**](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finos-open-source-in-fintech-podcast/id1512371068), [**Spotify**](https://open.spotify.com/show/431XdfX2fBdCUsopwh8td3), and all podcast platforms. -=-=-=-=- ### SHOW NOTES   George Kichukov: [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kichukov](https://www.linkedin.com/in/kichukov) GitLab: [https://about.gitlab.com](https://about.gitlab.com)   [Grizz's Info](https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarongriswold/) | [grizz@finos.org](mailto:grizz@finos.org) ►► [Visit FINOS www.finos.org](https://www.finos.org/) ►► [Get In Touch: info@finos.org](mailto:info@finos.org) #### [SUBSCRIBE TO THIS WEEK AT FINOS](mailto:community+subscribe@finos.org) ►► [Visit FINOS www.finos.org](https://www.finos.org/) ►► [Get In Touch: info@finos.org](mailto:info@finos.org) -=-=-=-=- ### time stamps 00:00 The Evolution of Open Source in Financial Services 01:32 Upcoming OSFF Events and Sponsors 01:33 Upcoming OSFF Events and Sponsors 03:31 Introduction to George Kichukov from GitLab 03:52 George's Role and Experience at GitLab 06:36 George's Career Journey Before GitLab 12:15 The Importance of Developer Experience 15:56 The Role of Open Source in Developer Experience 20:57 The Shift in Financial Services Towards Open Source 26:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts   -=-=-=-=- # **ABOUT THE OPEN SOURCE IN FINANCE PODCAST** The FINOS Open Source in Finance Podcast celebrates open source projects and interesting topics at the cross section of financial services and open source. 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