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title: "Open Source in Finance Podcast: State of Open Source in Financial Services Interview - Hilary Carter and Tosha Ellison"
description: "In this episode of the podcast, Grizz gets the opportunity to interview two authors of the 2021 Open Source in Financial Services Report, Hilary Carter of Linux Foundation Research, and Tosha Ellison of FINOS. We discuss why and how the survey and subsequent report was initiated, unexpected (and maybe expected) findings, and key takeaways of the survey and report for the audience to use in their work tactically and strategically.\n \nEpisode show notes are available below.\n\n \n \nEpisode show notes are available below."
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---

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# Community Blog

# Open Source in Finance Podcast: State of Open Source in Financial Services Interview - Hilary Carter and Tosha Ellison

 November 04, 2021

[Grizz Griswold](https://www.finos.org/blog/author/grizz-griswold)

In this episode of the podcast, Grizz gets the opportunity to interview two authors of the 2021 Open Source in Financial Services Report, Hilary Carter of Linux Foundation Research, and Tosha Ellison of FINOS. We discuss why and how the survey and subsequent report was initiated, unexpected (and maybe expected) findings, and key takeaways of the survey and report for the audience to use in their work tactically and strategically.

 

Episode show notes are available below.

 

 

Find all of our podcasts at [**Anchor.fm**](https://anchor.fm/finos), [**Apple Podcasts**](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finos-open-source-in-fintech-podcast/id1512371068), [**Spotify**](https://open.spotify.com/show/431XdfX2fBdCUsopwh8td3), and all podcast platforms.

 

-=-=-=-=-

### SHOW NOTES 

 

[**Download the 2021 State of Open Source In Financial Services Report here**](https://www.finos.org/state-of-open-source-in-financial-services-2021)

**Hilary and Tosha's Info**

**Hilary Carter, VP Research, Linux Foundation:** [**https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilarycartermsc/**](https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilarycartermsc/)

**Tosha Ellison, Strategic Advisor, FINOS:** [**https://www.linkedin.com/in/tosha-ellison-6697153/**](https://www.linkedin.com/in/tosha-ellison-6697153/)

 

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### About the Open Source in FINANCE Podcast

 

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